liquefry wrote:rtj45 wrote:Eh man for man they arent great imo. Warner is a great player but he is a flat pitch bully, smith and Maxwell are the only real international bats in that side. Stoinis is a glorified Craig Overton and marsh would be lucky to be in the same calibre imo. Finch is a reasonable opener but he isnt as inventive as Roy or bairstow and can be "tamed". I think labuschagne is a super test player but not a one day player. Just think they lack the spark that england have.
I don't like Warner, but he is a class bat. His ODI average is better in England (48), India (56) and the Windies (46) than it is in Australia (45.5). It's not great in Sri Lanka or UAE but you're buying into media BS to call him a flat track bully, the stats just don't back this up. In last year's world cup he averaged 72... I'd suggest he's just having a bad season so far, not that he can't play in England. Finch/Roy/Bairstow are all pretty equivalent IMO. Bairstow is terrible outside England. Outside the world cup, Roy has been meh for his whole career. Like the other two, Finch has been great in patches but is hit and miss. Agree on Stoinis and Marsh though.
Maybe flat track bully is particularly harsh on Warner, but does he really offer that much? If you went on to a non batting friendly pitch how much confidence would you have on Warner making runs? I wouldn't have much hope tbh but might just be being cynical. Finch is a good player agreed but in one days you need to be a bit inventive at times and he isnt as good as Roy or Bairstow at that element of the game, granted in terms of stats there isnt much between them but once again if the pitch was tough you'd still expect Bairstow or Roy to score somewhat briskly by being creative. On the other hand Maxwell and Smith are superb bats, creative and typically Australian in that you have to generally work hard to get them out without them compounding misery on a lacklustre bowling attack.